White privilege (Online discussiuon)

How does Adam Mansbach discussion of white hip-hop and white privilege help us understand the smaller proportion of white hip-hop collegians (compared to hip-hop fans)?  Why on a campus like WSU are you more likely to see white kids listening/consuming commodified hip-hop than participating in organizations, spaces, and movements surrounding hip hop


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Discussion ends October 12, 2012


6 thoughts on “White privilege (Online discussiuon)

  1. In the video, Adam explained early hip hop as not having a mass of white people involved in the culture. If you were a white person involved in the culture, you were one of the few, if not the only one. Being white, you had to prove that you knew the culture and what it stood for. No one accepted you until you proved your knowledge. We are now more likely to see white people not only on the WSU campus, but in the world, consuming the commodities of hip hop because it’s that easy. All you have to do is download a couple of rap songs onto your Ipod and bump it like you know what the song is about. You don’t have to know the history or the story behind hip hop because everyone has access to it. It’s no longer a sacred culture practiced by the few. It’s open to the whole world which makes it easier for people to be a hip hop fan, instead of a collegian. On the campus particularly and it’s location in the U.S, there has never been a huge culture of hip hop. If someone claims they know the history of the culture, no one will question them. Where as in parts on New York or LA, where hip hop has roots, people will call you out as an “impostor” if they see that you are just a poser and not an actual participant of the culture.

    • I agree particularly with your comment that ,”if someone claims they know the history of the culture, no one will question them.” I feel that because most people dont know any better false knowledge occurs when individuals pretend to know what their talking about and nobody knows better to call them out. Which is why we have people believing things like 50 cent was part of Biggies crew and other nonsense.

    • I agree with Lareesa when she says that white people have such easy access to hip-hop music by just downloading a track onto their ipod. Back when hip-hop first started it was more than just listening to track and pretending like you could relate to the artist in the song. Hip-hop was more of a movement that involved rap music but also other elements to form even a greater notion in the end.

  2. Adam Mansbach helps us understand why there is a smaller proportion of white hip-hop collegians compared to fans. He argues that most white people would more often than not hear hip-hop being played on the radio or at a house party, than if a white hip-hop fan would actually go to a local show and find an upcoming artist through an actual event. A lot of this is because in general less white people can relate to the lyrics that are being put out by rappers these days. Collegians show a greater appreciation for the culture and the true essence of hip-hop and we don’t get as often white people that can embrace this culture in which they really can’t relate to. A perfect example was in the documentary today where the white guy was in his dad’s car bumping fabo acting like that was his style when it was clear he was no hip-hop collegian. I think in a town like Pullman that really doesn’t have a hip-hop scene the only way hip-hop is present is if its brought in from the outside which is why it seems so commodified on campus.

  3. Adam Mansbach argues that white hip-hop heads were usually the only ones in the room when it came to hip hop scenes. As a result, white hip-hop heads were forced to see recognize their own whiteness and the privilege that is attached to it. It made white hip-hop heads aware of their own physicality. Hip-hop brings to the light the reality that many whites turn their backs to. It’s not that white cannot relate to hip-hop music it is just that it forces them to critically look at the world. Why are some people granted privileges that many of us are not? Mansbach, also argues that hip-hop is a way for whites to escape their privilege and their everyday problems. They can identify with the music without being forced to recognize their own whiteness because hip-hop music is easily accessible. Before whites had to p emerge themselves with the actual culture of hip hop now all they have to do is down load it from i-tunes.

  4. In a culture where white kids are the minority, Adam Mansbach explains how being a white hip hop collegian is different. Being the minority, white kids have to know a lot about the music and culture. They have to prove their knowledge before they will be accepted. Because they are not instantly accepted into the culture, it is harder for white kids to get involved with organizations and movements surrounding hip hop. For them, it is much easier to consume the main stream music and try to get involved in the culture that way. It is much easier to download a song off of the computer or watch a music video on youtube than it is for them to find and seek out an organization to get involved with. On college campuses, you see and hear hip hop everywhere. Walking through the cub, at parties, at friend’s houses, and tons of other places. Since so many people are only somewhat involved with the culture, knowing certain songs and some parts of the history of hip hop, it seems easier to get involved because you don’t need to know a whole lot. Basically, the hip hop culture is what’s popular and everyone wants to get involved. They get involved the easiest way that they can; through consumption.

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